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Sometimes, it's annoying to see tenderqueer zoomer Persona fans act like Persona is this ~queer~ friendly series while dismissing other JRPGs for not being queer enough. for example, Xenoblade.
Look, I have no issue if you think Persona is gay as hell or has a hidden queer agenda or something. But acting like it's the most queer video game series out there, when the franchise has multiple instances of homophobic rhetoric and stereotypes, is fucking annoying. Especially when these same zoomer tenderqueer Persona fans have the gall to call other JRPG titles "not queer enough."

In the case of Xenoblade, it's funny to me. Yeah, Xenoblade is straight as fuck, but I’ve never seen the game include queerphobic talking points or stereotypes. Most queer-coded characters in Xenoblade are also depicted in a very sympathetic manner.
Fujobait and yuribait Xenoblade ships mog any so-called "queer" representation in Persona. To the point, I think I find more meaningful LGBT portrayal from freakin' Xenoblade yaoi/yuri bait undertones.

It's so weird how zoomer Atlus fans want to convince themselves that their favorite series is queer-friendly, when almost every Atlus series has a lot of homophobic undertones. Even P2 has a transphobic NPC.
Like, I have no problem if they enjoy the series or want to see queer readings in it. But most of them seem to be in denial or unable to accept that parts of Persona or Atlus games do have queerphobic undertones more so than, say, the infamous XB3 baby scene.

I wouldn’t give a shit if these people didn’t act so smug and holier-than-thou toward other JRPG series, lol.


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Date: Thursday, 27 February 2025 03:55 (UTC)
captaincassidy: (Louis Chewing)
From: [personal profile] captaincassidy
I think there's some genuinely interesting exploration of queerness we see uniquely in animanga (and any Asian or non-western media) that can and should be acknowledged, but yes, the yaoi/yuribaiting is... well, it's a marketing tactic. I was talking about this with Get Backers the other day, which has some of the most prevalent yaoibaiting I've seen, personally. XD It seems, for a variety of reasons, "coding" characters in eastern media is much more common than what we see in western Hollywood, likely because overt portrayals would be met... poorly. Not to say there aren't some out there; I've seen a slew of explicitly-queer manga in my local bookstore in the last couple of years. And since we only get a tiny fraction of what is put out in its native language, I can only assume (or hope) that there are more explicitly-queer works being made.

Yeah... I will still say yaoi for funsies, but to think it's something people in Japan use? Or worse, pretending it's different from the modern term BL... ugh. I see on MyAnimeList all the time "recs of BL but NO YAOI." Like, you dumbass! Speak to ONE non-American person, I'm begging you!!

By the way, when you use "tenderqueer," what does that mean? I've seen a couple places saying "white nb/afab hipsters who weaponize social justice for harm/to not take responsibility," and saw one tumblr post (here) about it. But it's a new term to me. o:

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Date: Thursday, 27 February 2025 23:21 (UTC)
captaincassidy: (Louis)
From: [personal profile] captaincassidy
That checks out. I hope I can learn to read a couple of other languages so I can sniff out some of that stuff for myself. There’s so much really cool stuff that doesn’t get serialized, much less a translation!

Fr! ;_;

Gotcha! Okay, just making sure. Yeah I left most socmed because of that kind of shit, and the antis/doxxing/etc. People are just nuts these days.

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